Wipro’s Layoff Plan : Senior Employee Prepares to Fight

This entry is part 1 of 8 in the series Senior Wipro Employee

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This gentleman spoke to us today and send this write up about the “Band Intertia” plan of Wipro.

We call upon all Wipro employees to join hands to fight the Band Inertia plan.

We call upon all IT Employees to take a stand and join the struggle against corporate profit hunt at the cost of employees.

Please join New Democratic IT/ITES Employees Circle.

Also read this article about the root cause of the current madness going on in IT sector.

I am senior employee of Wipro technologies working in Information technology for more than 20 years. Wipro is planning to do mass layoffs and this message is an insight on what is happening as part of this.

Wipro has bands like WASE & WISTA (Higher education undergoing students working in projects), A2,A3,B1, B2,C1,C2,D1 and D2 where A2 is the lowest and D2 is the most senior positio.

Starting from 2016, Wipro follows quarterly appraisal model. As part of appraisal, Wipro has 5 ratings called Outstanding/Exceeds Expectation/ Highly valued contribution/More contribution expected and Unsatisfactory contribution. Wipro now introduced a concept called Band inertia as part of appraisal system.

The logic of band inertia is as follows:

1) If a person is in same band for 7 years, he/she will be part of band inertia. In this case, performance of the employee is not considered and directly HR is asking managers to mark More contribution expected to their employees.

2) Even if employees in the project, they will be asked to move out of the company.

3) Primary target of Band inertia is people in Band B3 and above (Senior people whose experience is more than 10 years).

4) Target is to give 10% MCE ratings including people in Band inertia. It is expected 50000+ employees are above band B3 and target is to make 5000 people move.

5) The main problem here is if we have 1000 people in one band, only 50 positions is available for next band promotion. So on an average in 7 years, 350 people will be promoted and remaining 650 people will come in Band inertia

6) Wipro as part of Q4 press conference state that 600 people will be removed as part of performance appraisal and it is less compared to other organizations like CTS. But in reality, Wipro is also targeting to have same number of people to be fired.

7) Wipro beat estimates of industrial experts this quarter on revenue and their profit margin increased considerably. Being an employee for close to 2 decades, I feel this layoff plan called Band Inertia is not correct ethic. That is the reason, I am bringing this to everyone’s attention.

8) When I joined Wipro, we have employees strength of 30,000 people. In these 2 decades, Wipro has expanded mutiple folds on employee strength, revenue, profits but unfortunately senior employees who are part of this growth are considered as overweights.

I did not get a call from HR so far and I may get the call anytime. I am definitely planning to fight against this act of Wipro and I hope NDLF will also support me in this journey

–  A Senior Wipro employee

Also read Wipro, Cognizant Layoffs – Next Steps in 7 Q&A

Follow up post by the same Senior Wipro employee

Additional evidence on Band Inertia plan at Glassdoor forum.

Also read this article about the root cause of the current madness going on in IT sector and Communist Manifesto for IT/ITES Employees.

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    • Prakash on May 4, 2017 at 8:25 am
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    Absolutely valid. A union for IT is long overdue.

    • G c n on May 4, 2017 at 9:15 am
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    We should jointly protest as even if u r eligible they are not giving progression.

    • Ami on May 4, 2017 at 10:41 am
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    A company whose Chairman is known for giving million is dollars in charity and doing this is double standards. He used to be my idol but with this kind of news it is clearly a double standards.
    I call this as an Attempt of a failed CEO who cannot achieve his mission for 2020, a short term boost for revenue and a long term failure for an organisation.

      • Sanjay on May 5, 2017 at 7:17 pm
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      They give charity to enjoy tax benefits. Dont trust any of them.

        • Annas on May 11, 2017 at 8:38 am
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        Yes you maybe right.. But please let us all know when was the last time you gave money out of your pocket to any kind of needy people? They do it for charity or for their self pride or for tax benefit, it doesn’t matter. Lots of needy people out there let them benefit from it.

          • Mani on May 12, 2017 at 1:28 pm
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          Annas think about the people who r working in their company. When they cannot save their own people from layoffs why the heck they have to be pride in donating to charities !!

            • Annas on May 14, 2017 at 12:42 am

            Mani, I completely understand the situation faced by the employees. I support it’s our right to fight back. I mean no disrespect to any views in the forum and I also deeply regret if I offended anyone. But I firmly stand to my point.

            It’s in our nature to question things ONLY when we face an inconvenience. Earlier this year CTS made 6000 lay off and no questions rise. Why? Is it because that’s an U.S. firm and we find no Indian to be held responsible? Why always we blame Indians when the same mistake done by everyone?
            Indian IT companies brought so much revenues and job opportunities to India all these years. One cannot deny the benefits enjoyed by IT people these years and the same time where non-IT people considered unlucky.

            One must understand the time changes especially to the IT people. Thanks to Trump’s work policy. We may find more difficulties in coming years. Currently we could sense that there is a complete business change happening in terms of structure, process and eventually policy. It’s a business change and we need to adapt to it. However we will bounce back in future.

            Yes, today we face job insecurity and I am going through the same phase working in a concern for 12+ yrs. where I am likely to be kicked out anytime soon. But that doesn’t warrant us to defame company or individuals by all means. They are doing it by the framework/agreement provided by our Governments.
            So I would say, our fight should be not limited to any particular organization but to the whole Indian IT policy!!

          • Harish Kumar on May 25, 2017 at 8:06 pm
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          Just imagine, if your father responsible for taking care of you, did the same. Stopped feeding you and gave out money to the so called needy outside, would you have found it to be justified…….

          If you feel like doing charity, raise your capabilities instead of killing people in-house

    • Sups on May 4, 2017 at 11:45 am
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    They say Normalization is over but the fact is in current appraisal cycle forceful normalization is happening. I know few people who were rated exceed expectation last year and this year rated MCE and has been asked to move. Regarding Band Inertia I think it’s 5 years in same band no salary hike and next year you are asked to leave.
    Normalization is running so high that people who were rated by L1 and additional supervisor as Exceed Expectation was normalized to HVC. Wipro use to be an employee centric company but today it’s anything except employee centric. How can you expect productivity or new ideas when employees are scared of being layoff

      • Rrr on May 19, 2017 at 10:25 pm
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      Hi,

      Can you let me know whether wipro performance appraisal is over for this quarter. I am really worried because my brother is with Spiro and is in the same band for over 5 years. He says still he has not received his rating. Kindly update.

    • Raj on May 4, 2017 at 11:49 am
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    Absolutely true… It is not the way to progress or show profit …Not corect

    • Employee thtown out due to Band Inertia on May 4, 2017 at 11:55 am
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    Use n Throw shouldn’t not be a policy. Use n rotate should be one. Find alternative in a constructive manner z good for everyone. Let’s stand in front of wipro corporate gate on 29th May17.

      • SD on May 4, 2017 at 2:25 pm
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      Agree. Every alternate weeks we have revived ethical mails from higher management, it’s only for employee, not for employer…!!

    • Shiva on May 4, 2017 at 1:28 pm
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    Instead of giving crores of money for charity. Use it for employees growth. Because that crores of money came from every employee of an organisation. Let’s fight

      • Annas on May 11, 2017 at 8:28 am
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      Those money are given to under previliged people who couldn’t run a normal life. Asking that money for your growth and reasoning that money is generated because of you is like stealing money from a blind baggers’ plate to fill your tummy. If a maid in your house who cleans the house and washes your dishes claims that she has equal rights to the house will you accept it?

      1. Annas,
        Employees are the primary stakeholders of the company. The work of employees built the company.

        Your comparison is wrong. It is more like head of family chasing away a son after years of joint work and building the family wealth.

        • Mani on May 12, 2017 at 1:32 pm
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        I don’t have visibility of where that money is going ! Every company spend crores on charities. I don’t see improvements in infrastructures of charities too !

        First look after your people then look after others.

        You have your mother don’t have food to eat. Will you donate the food to others instead of giving it to your mom ?

    • Mir Kasim on May 4, 2017 at 1:38 pm
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    Wipro has become a damned company since Abid Ali *walla was placed at top, and now it is like a monkey enjoying a garland. Better to move on asap. Escape !!!

    • rajkumar on May 4, 2017 at 1:55 pm
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    There is no difference between 10 th std guy and such CEO where both can find to increase revenue only by reducing head count. None of the employee are happy about this move. Even i don’t qualify for band inertia, still no faith on such CEO.

    • Not Required on May 4, 2017 at 2:02 pm
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    Wipro’s current CEO should be fired. He is from BPO background with no ethics how an IT company should run. Wipro current policy is to reach 15bn by 2020. Now these are the steps being taken to reach the goal.

    • Jayant R on May 4, 2017 at 2:15 pm
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    I am also WIPRO Employee since past 16 years and I fully agree with the above article. I have lots of Proofs to support the issue mentioned in above article. WIPRO is asking people working in Organization for 10-15 years to leave by giving 2 months notice. They are not offering any VRS or for that matter any benefits. It is high time all the IT employees get organized and fight this.

      • Semio on May 5, 2017 at 2:56 pm
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      Guys pls fight back and take Wipro CEO to court. I was a victim last month. Band inertia started last year it self every month they are calling employees and asking to resign. They are finding some reason for us to resign. In ERICSSON account big fraud happened and so called ADH covered it. Is this not integrity. As said HRs are waste in Wipro. They are more of PA to ADH.
      Pls do call for a strick in sip and Ec office on Monday. Let media know about it.

    • Atul Kumar on May 4, 2017 at 2:21 pm
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    yes ur right. I am the latest prey for this yesterday.

      • IT Dude on May 9, 2017 at 9:09 am
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      what do you mean? Are you fired? Didn’t they give notice? How many months sal are they giving?

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      If any of you have been a victim of this, can you please write to me at shilpa@thenewsminute.com

    • Vijay on May 4, 2017 at 2:25 pm
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    Absolutely we should form a group to fight against their decisions and try to make our jobs secured.

    • PA on May 4, 2017 at 2:35 pm
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    Very true. This is how they are showing profit. They are not concerned about quality. What they need is just low cost employees.

    • NOT NEEDED on May 4, 2017 at 3:57 pm
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    The organization has become blind. It is throwing people away without even taking a care to nature them for the next. It is busy to show profits and so the COE also looking after his own profit pocket. But is this method a sustainable one? NO…instead people should be better utilized…why not take this experienced people and make them work for new ventures…why don’t the sales team be pressured to make proper strategic sales in order to build better opportunities….people who are being asked to go are now majorly settled with a family and kids (may be)….out of all these if someone from them commits to something wrong will Wipro take the pain of reimbursing the loss….no…..people wake up….raise your voices…..fight against this injustice…..take some strong steps and save our brothers and sisters….before the hell break loose……wake up folks wake up!!!

    • Raghu on May 4, 2017 at 4:03 pm
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    Very true. I was handed the same treatment last week and informed to resign

      • IT Dude on May 9, 2017 at 9:11 am
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      What happened? Did you resign? Were you on bench?

    • PR on May 4, 2017 at 5:02 pm
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    Some labour law should be there to protect the employees. This is insane. Also heard some employees were asked to do 2-3 people’s work as support count is getting reduced. Those who survived might also be going through tough time.

    • Pss on May 4, 2017 at 5:38 pm
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    Wipro giving lots of corer to charity at the cost of employee satisfaction.. Wipro asking to stop new hiring and pressurized to work more than 10 hour everyday, 2-3 people loads. They are not botheretd about quality.. Wipro is planning to implement HOLMES, automation in each and every area which result to reduce manpower.

      • mahesh c on May 5, 2017 at 3:15 pm
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      Holmes….!!!! Utter failure. It can only fix L1 tasks. So based on it they are replacing experuenced resources. So quality of delivdry will fail for sure. Because L1 resource dont know how to fix L2/3 tasks.

    • mohan on May 4, 2017 at 5:50 pm
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    Mr CEO’s aim is achieve 15×20 only(yes ! any how). In fact he has been appointed for that only.

    once aim is achieved, I am 1000% sure Mr Premji going to sell the Wipro IT arm and will move back to consumer area.

    • NGT on May 4, 2017 at 6:41 pm
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    Rightly said. I am also a latest victim of forced MCE rating and has been asked to resign. Shameless organisation and management where actual non-performers have been sacking hard working empoyees for their own sake.
    To hell with this politics and such unethical practise.
    Showing profile this way and giving 1:1 bonus to themselves and chamchas. Shame.

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        • Firoj Mujawar on May 12, 2017 at 12:36 pm
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        I am also victim of this in Aug 2016 wipro asked me to put resign because UC(unsatisfied contrubution) in apprisal rating in june 2016. Contact number 9665373752.

    • Mohan on May 4, 2017 at 6:57 pm
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    The issue is CEO and baggage he carried from TCS all with major exp in BPO. And few top leaders who carry their own small army where ever they move within Wipro. This group is useless. While the actual workers are targeted under band inertia. The HR too from bottom to top are not employee friendly. They only nod to what their bosses say.

    • Rajesh on May 4, 2017 at 7:41 pm
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    This is not acceptable. Seems target is employee only who has qorked so hard and put all his time & efforts for organisation. No strong reason provided to employee for layoff. Just to get the margins for top mgmt they cannot employees

    • Jain on May 4, 2017 at 7:46 pm
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    Please someone tell how to contribute in this fight. TCS will also follow such kind of unethical practice. They recruit blindly without any vision. Whenever there is tough time,v these ppl has just one solution, layoff the snrs. They dont have any other alternative solution. IT union is must for this use n throw policy where they eat up your youth and throw you in the name of profitability when you need the job most.

      • Fire all vp & sr vp on May 4, 2017 at 8:49 pm
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      I can fund lawyer

    • Unknown friend on May 4, 2017 at 7:56 pm
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    Then the first person to be thrown out should be the chairman 😋

    • Fire all vp on May 4, 2017 at 8:16 pm
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    Fire all vp and sr vp. U can save lot

    • Fire HRs on May 4, 2017 at 9:04 pm
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    Is there any use if you write an email to ombuds and also to AZP?

      • Raj on May 5, 2017 at 12:16 pm
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      I think one should write to Premji about what is going on. John Chambers took $ 1 as his salary when the there was tough time. Why can’t our Senior VP’s, CXO go without salary for couple of months?

      1. Mails to Premji will not reach him directly.. there will be management desk who filters his mails.. so no use of sending mails.. lol

        Only media to reach Premji is via social media

    • John doe on May 4, 2017 at 9:13 pm
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    Unyielding integrity works two ways. It is unyielding madness from chairman and his cronies, unyielding inhumane behaviour, unyielding pschological torture. Personal life, finances are shatterd. If all the unyielding integrity employee are shown the door senselessly for bottomless greed, it hurts back, now with us hiring and multi million dollar law suits from us employees. This call for class action suit. This is nothing but psychological war unleashed on employees and families in some or other pretext. Inhumane! International human rights court deciding and prosecuting chairman and cronies this is not far off. Board and all way from top to D1 band are mere sycophants of this one man company chairman, yes sayers to barbarianism at the cost of human lives. Unfit for human life!

    • NV on May 4, 2017 at 9:39 pm
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    Vinaash kaale, vipareetha budhi

    • Fighter on May 4, 2017 at 9:51 pm
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    It’s a high time to say byeee byee to such an unethical company….Where is SOW now…..everything made for the cmpny benefit.. Employees are just a slave for these morons…

    • Not required on May 4, 2017 at 9:52 pm
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    I am told 10s of crores are spent on re-branding, while layoffs are happening in the name of band inertia. One end cost cutting and other end spending. Did not understand the logic!!!

    Spirit of Wipro gone to dogs.
    Unyielding integrity – HR asking the managers to rate Unsatisfactory/MCE despite good performances…is it integrity????

    Respect for people – This is how the company shows respect to employees by falsely showing poor performance and asking to resign

      • Srini on May 5, 2017 at 3:23 pm
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      All Wipro HRs are senseless, ruthless, and slaves to top management.
      Are they ready to face Band Inertia? The rule is applicable to them also. They are puppets with NO self decision making. I better die, than living like them. The curse of so many people, their families will definitely hit them.

      No human values to HR, only soapers, shoe polishers, **** lickers will only survive, but as I told ITS BETTER TO DIE, THAN LICKING ****

    • Modi on May 4, 2017 at 10:03 pm
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    I also hear a lot about COD, and he Leaders are asked to run cost of delivery and the best part is that the CEO and COO operates from US. Are the not cost to delivery and why is their name not part of the COD list ?

    • OneSuch on May 4, 2017 at 10:19 pm
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    Guys we need a larger platform. Inspite of all this being completely unethical not a single hustle here and there.This needs to trend seriously#Profitkeliyekuchbkarega

    • Ex employee on May 4, 2017 at 11:24 pm
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    This is so true, I was an employee of Wipro for over 10years and have worked mostly in USA and CAnada and have seen the company deteriorate. In fact it is HR that is the worst department in Wipro. Promotion is given on Basis of who you know and all HR proceedings bent to accommodate the people who are connected, people are opinionated and total frauds telling lies to customers and unfortunately for the customers they realize only after they have signed a long term contract.
    Mr Premji should be fired and taken to court for all the bad work his company is doing. Many customers have kicked out Wipro, I think we should make that public so that the world knows and CXO’s can take correct decisions and not go with a company that will put customer at stake to ensure they get their 35% profit.
    I am anyways taking Wipro to court for the fraud they have done with me.

    • Ajeeth on May 4, 2017 at 11:54 pm
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    All this happens due to latest CEO Abid Ali. Where ever former TCS guy joins the Top position,he will screw the company and make it die. One more example Rajesh Nambiar came from TCS and joined IBM that’s it. Now IBM is only good for juniors. IBM was showing good profit but recent years showing very bad performance. The CEO should concentrate how to get more business , deliver with high quality and show good profit. Removing employees will show good profit for one quarter only. If he thinks removing people is the only way then he should go out first.

    • Be Smart on May 5, 2017 at 12:19 am
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    After Band Inertia, they have come up with bottom 10 list. They are going ruthlessly, pulling out employees from projects whether in India or onsite. Wipro is losing revenue due to this, customers are not ready to replace them in most cases and business is going to competitors.
    HR is not giving any explanation to the employees, all of sudden they have become redundant. Big fat is sitting on top and many more joined along with Abid, eating most of the money, jet setting and enjoying life.
    Abid and his team is destroying the company. I hope Mr. Chairman will look in to this soon and save Wipro.

  1. Hi,
    Excellent step.

    I am proactively reassigned and search other. Because I am also aware with this process.

    Can we plan to move supreme court?

      • Srini on May 5, 2017 at 3:17 pm
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      I am ready to move this case anywhere provided we all get justice.

  2. wipro caption is applying thoughts and they are and have not considered thoughts of employee.. soon these kind company will disappear. rich will become richer @ senior management level

    • Does it matter ? on May 5, 2017 at 7:33 am
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    One of the biggest strategic blunders by Mr.Premji was to hire the new CEO, Abid. The motive stinks of vegetable oil and soap mentality. [..snipped..] style approach. Abid has no originalty and has not shown any vision or direction to give confidence to employees, customers and shareholders. Infact, his 20×15 mission is flawed and stinks of plagarism …straight lifted from his counterpart in Infosys. He blindly follows him.

    Removing valuable human resources to save cost is again a [..snipped..] thought process. Short term gains and long term losses, in addition to poor customer satisfaction and no new business.

    There is no organic growth plans. This is sure to bomb the future of Wipro.

    To add to woes, the new CEO is changing almost everything like systems , logo, senior management team (of course from TCS BPO, where else)….cost does not matter here, surprisingly. Btw, the new logo has a big ZERO in the center.

    Worse is yet to come…. God bless the stakeholders, especially shareholders.

    • Deepak on May 5, 2017 at 8:31 am
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    We should jointly protect and tell our viewes to Premji about very wrong repercations of this decision. He should reconsider immediately about this decision as L1 & L2 managers are playing high politics and are targeting high performers. As a result of this quality and delivery will be worsen. Management is saving the person who are actually non-performers as they are their pet and laying off actual performers on the name of relative ratings, without giving any base of this.

    • Shiva on May 5, 2017 at 8:32 am
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    What will be the future of senior IT professionals, surprisingly same team made huge profits for organisations and now appear as white elephants. Management propagates a false theory that senior employees can’t adopt new technologies which is completely wrong.
    If IT job’s life is only less than 15 years, what will be the future of the person. This is just because of lacking​ strong employees union.

    This is high time to stand unite and raise voice against managements.

    • Ankit on May 5, 2017 at 8:53 am
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    This same thing is happening in Tech Mahindra also, It happens to me and there are many more who is going to lose there job on the basis of there last appraisal rating.

    • Ex employee on May 5, 2017 at 9:15 am
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    Premji is the one who is supporting all this so no point telling him…. meet him and one realizes how luck plays a part in your life. He has no passion for what he does, only money is his top priority and as rightly said by someone in this forum, he plays double standards, on one hand donated to charity and on the other hand supports looting customers and kicking employees who have been serving in his company for long….. what a hypocrite.

    • Raghavraghav on May 5, 2017 at 9:28 am
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    Really wipro managent playing wid employee..actually they only don’t have knowledge that how to handle profits, revenue..and because of this kind idiot CEO, CHAIRMAN employees are suffered at the time of appraisal. After 3-4years so many project will be ramp down from wipro

    • Rahul on May 5, 2017 at 9:28 am
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    Companys are making profit but at the appraisal time normal hike is given The employee who are loyal and stabal with the company should have a reason to stick with the company changes should be there as of now..Every employee should raise there voice.

    • Unknown on May 5, 2017 at 10:09 am
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    Absolute truth.. this is the reality of wipro.
    All employees should support this

    • Prasenjit Banik on May 5, 2017 at 11:03 am
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    Yes i support your plan.union on national basis is required in IT.

    • KNS on May 5, 2017 at 11:04 am
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    Employees removed at the pretext of underperformance is nothing new. But here, most of the employees with good ratings have been asked to be given low rating by their managers, so that they can save on the annual hike. Wondering who is making Wipro the most ethical company year on year…the salary is low compared to peers & no severance pay! How will People sustain?

    • Fire all vp & sr vp on May 5, 2017 at 11:11 am
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    Spread word assemble monday 10am at sjp2 with families

    1. Which location?

        • Fire all vp & sr vp on May 6, 2017 at 4:46 pm
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        Sarjapur main office

        1. Can you prepare a proper announcement and send to us. We will publish in this site calling upon all IT/ITES employees to join in. We will also forward to all our press contacts.

          We suggest Monday or Tuesday.

          • Srinivasan on May 8, 2017 at 6:23 pm
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          Ian from chennai anyone planning.pl inform

            • IT Dude on May 9, 2017 at 9:13 am

            Did you invite media people? Try big names like NDTV , Star etc

    • nagatedada on May 5, 2017 at 11:15 am
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    Kids, wake up and smell the coffee!! It’s all market forces at work

    • raj on May 5, 2017 at 11:58 am
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    How many of you are ready to give interview to media (tv and paper). I can arrange.
    let me know how to reach u.

      • Fire all vp & sr vp on May 6, 2017 at 4:47 pm
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      I can give interview….

      • Srinivasan on May 8, 2017 at 8:36 pm
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      Ian ready to give media interview chennai

      1. Hi, I’m Shilpa and i work with thenewsminute.com and we want to do a story about this.
        If any of you have been a victim of this, can you please write to me at shilpa@thenewsminute.com

    • NA on May 5, 2017 at 12:50 pm
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    Hi

    I am also the latest victim where i had almost EC rating for first 3 quarters and now they are rating me MCE and mentioning of band max HR is asking me to resign.

    Did you guys resign already or what are you planning as a next step.

      • Srinivasan on May 8, 2017 at 6:25 pm
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      Not resigned they told termination

    • Ranjay on May 5, 2017 at 12:51 pm
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    Wipro is loosing brand value. ..no employee respect.

    • Fighter on May 5, 2017 at 1:26 pm
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    Swami & UP CM had banned illegal
    cow slaughtering.

    Wipro also doing nothing less than
    mass slaughtering. We should first bring,
    this injustice to AZP notice. STILL I believe
    He might not be knowing. First FIRE HR
    head [..snipped..], and all these senseless,
    mental HRs.

    I am also victim of this BAND inertia.
    Also I have not licked shoes of my account
    Head […snipped…] he is such an
    Idiot womanizer. HR [..snipped..] works like a
    PA to him. Only chamchas will survive,

    I will fight for justice.

    • Vijay on May 5, 2017 at 2:02 pm
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    I am also having 11 years of experience and I was a victim of politics even though I worked for most of the projects and streamlined the quality of work.I took release from my previous project since salary is very less and last 3 years I got only 3 % hike.Now hearing all these news of layoff which is really demoralizing and creating panic.

    Guys lets get together and fight for this.

      • kranthi on May 5, 2017 at 3:52 pm
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      Hi Vijay, This experience is not only with you. But most of the employees who are not chamchas to the Senior Management are facing this trouble. I know some people who are facing this issue.

      Lets Fight for justice.

    • NA on May 5, 2017 at 2:21 pm
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    Can you please let me know how you guys are planning to fight. HR are saying if i dont resign then they will terminate not sure how that is possible. They say if terminate then it will not be the clean exit.

    • Ahmad on May 5, 2017 at 2:54 pm
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    Yes, this is not correct at all.This should not happened.

    • kranthi on May 5, 2017 at 3:40 pm
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    It’s really true… Wipro Layoff Plan is very bad and Senior Management are using ugly (Chamcha) politics to fire good quality employees. Wipro is having good value in market but now they are loosing their value because of this ugly (chamcha) politics.
    Please remove the Senior Management team who is not performing.

    ****Wipro new logo is looking like big ZERO by firing the employees using Chamcha politics****

    • krish on May 5, 2017 at 4:56 pm
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    Guys…while you all fight to get your right! Spend time in re-skilling yourself. That can yield another better paying job. Perhaps this firing can work out to your benefit in disguise!
    […snipped…]

      • NA on May 5, 2017 at 11:16 pm
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      Hello Boss..People knows very well how to re skill them self….do you think they wont get a job going forward,definitely they will and remember tough time make a person more sensible and responsible but why due to some bad management decision the employee has to suffer always.

      In wipro most of the worst people who dont even know work enjoying higher salary and onsite dollar but I will completely agree that they know very well how to lick manager and I think you are one of them.

    • Manoj on May 5, 2017 at 5:34 pm
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    Layoff is not any sollution !!
    Advise to all IT companies – RESKILL YOUR EXISTING EMPLOYEES RATHER THAN FIRING THEM !!

    • Binu on May 5, 2017 at 5:43 pm
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    Lets take strike a single day….. Things will change ….. Lets them adjust the processes and revenue target to accommodate the employee expenses …. They cannot always play only win win games…. This is all part of any business… So is any other industry…

    • raja on May 5, 2017 at 5:45 pm
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    Hello friends,
    If you want to air your thoughts on television anonymously connect with correspondent of television news channel.
    CHARAN –
    09900060843
    He will come and take ur interview.

    • Vish on May 5, 2017 at 6:02 pm
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    Next generation will be scared to get into IT if this continues and so called today’s leaders are going to be responsible for this mess. We need strong union now to protest this.

    • Surya on May 5, 2017 at 6:30 pm
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    If the employee recruited by company after many rounds of interviews means he/she is already proved as high performer, After working in your company for so many years, Now you are saying the employee has become NON PERFORMER, Then this the fault of company that you made the employee as non performer and played with the employee career. Every one should go to the court on this ground.

      • Rohit on May 6, 2017 at 10:30 am
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      Very good point and overall very good discussion but going in no direction. Can someone publish this on useful media like LinkedIn
      ? For the world to see?

    • Rana on May 5, 2017 at 6:57 pm
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    CEO is an American and is detached with India and indian culture and ethos. Firing people is normal for him. In fact he has been a specialist in optimization in TCS as well. The senior managers he brought in are useless without any proven mettle.

    This is a master plan by Azim Premi and his son. On one hand he will donate to his own charity. (Why not other charities????) So that money stays in house only. His other son heads this foundation. Wipro is paying salaries of employees partially by deducting the variable pay of employees known as QPLC. HR is just for name sake. Premji may even sell off the Indian operations after removing 50K people.

    Bad management led by Abid & team.

    • NA on May 5, 2017 at 7:46 pm
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    Can we all meet some place to decide on the next course. Some place outside to decide the next course

    • John on May 5, 2017 at 8:27 pm
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    The new Logo itself has dots which means it will make employees to see stars from now. Better to fight

    • Indian on May 5, 2017 at 9:10 pm
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    These company works in direction of US and UK. They are agents. Govt should take action against such companies.

      • Rakesh Kumar Panda on May 6, 2017 at 2:07 am
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      U can’t do anything abt it as these companies only give u bread n butter since u r into IT. If u have talent bring a good idea I will make sure good industry people will be with u..

    • Baba Patil on May 5, 2017 at 9:44 pm
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    Hi,

    Entire IT is mostly dependent on USA market. As its plummeting and hitting own American citizens as well
    due to advance technologies and cloud based frameworks, Indian IT is going to hit badly.
    My only two cents here is, instead of sacking people IT complies can reduce salaries and try to
    accommodate existing employees.
    For another 2 years it’s going to be a big turmoil and things will settle down a bit.
    If people ar panning their kids to put in computer engineering, I think they should think twice now.

    Patilbaba

      • Goraknath on May 6, 2017 at 11:59 am
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      You are right,instead of paying high salary in the beginning, start with low salary and salary hike can be made once in five years and job security should be given to the employees.comany makes profit because of employees, but same employees would be targeted for cost cutting, so many years company’s earn billions of dollars, where that money has gone? Can’t they sustain 2 to 3 years under loss?
      They give millions to charity but they kill their own employees. Performance is nowadays is a flexible term to create fear among employees. Every employees stand against these robers, they come, they utilise us, they earn, and leave

      • Rajesh on May 10, 2017 at 10:58 pm
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      Which other sector has jobs ? Other sectors like mechanical, electrical combined cannot match IT. Problem is too many ppl were working on excel sheets and ‘managing’ and ‘leading’ instead of working technically. Only thing is company should fire those idiots instead of actual working people.

    • victim on May 5, 2017 at 10:24 pm
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    Even I am a victim of band inertia, whts happening shld be highlighted and known to the world.

    • victim on May 5, 2017 at 10:34 pm
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    This shld be highlighted, and to be know Globally.

    • Pawan on May 5, 2017 at 11:26 pm
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    There should be some kind of petition to be signed and strict action to be taken by the PMO against the employer for the safety of all employees in the future.

    • DO NOT SUBMIT FORMAL RESIGNATION LETTER THROUGH MAIL OR IN THE SYSTEM. on May 5, 2017 at 11:27 pm
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    1. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY ALTERNATE JOB OR NOT CONFIDENT OF GETTING WITHIN 2 MONTHS – DO NOT SUBMIT RESIGNATION
    2. HR will use different threads/threats and categories to make one to exit, none of which are legally and morally valid.
    a. Bottom 5
    b. Band Inertia
    c. No Role
    d. Free Pool.
    3. If you ask HR to formally send a written mail, then HR must forcefully and formally Layoff you in which case they must pay a compensation of 1 month of salary for every year of service accomplished in the organization in addition to the 2 month notice period.
    4. But yes, one need to fight for it against the muscle power of the corporate HR. But it is worth when no alternate is there.
    5. This may lead to movement to Free pool, not allowing to get into projects and leading to frustration.
    6. One may not get good experience letter in such case, but no one can deny the proper Relieving letter/PF/Financial Dues when the ultimate release does happen.
    REGARDIMNG THE CURRENT SCENARIO AT WIPRO
    1. It started 6 years back
    2. The focus was and is on cost cutting only, rather on Top line revenue growth.
    3. With an EX-CEO who was CA, and Current CEO who is from BPO – what else one can expect? Only cost operations and cost cutting. Both have No IT / Industry / Technical knowledge. They are the real below performers.
    4. The amount being spent for Re-branding (which was not at all attracted/mentioned by the Markets/analysts) is a mere waste to divert the utter failures of the top management.
    5. The top executives have been increasing their salary YoY at least 15-20% without any contribution to the value creation.
    6. The Chairman eyeing for Good image among the Public and Government – donating to his own charity organization. For him few thousands of employees suffering does not matter. But as someone said the agony of the employees’ families will not bother him, his family, the top executives.
    7. The IT companies and their share-holders in the changed market scenario need to realize that this sector is also like any other sector and the margins also stand around 20% or so – one cannot keep on squeezing around 30% and for that can no through the seniors out.
    8. The rest of the middle management are the pawns in the hands of the top management. It is just matter of time for them and anyone to face the same fate of exit – hence no point in blaming them as they are forced to execute the top management orders.
    9. In Wipro peculiarly the HR and Finance Group dominates the rest. They behave as if they are custodians and Trustees, take call on all matters and spoiled the whole culture
    10. Finally – It is better to drop out the 2 sentences “TREAT EACH PERSON WITH RESPECT & Unyielding integrity in everything we do ” from the Wipro Value statement

      • Rajesh on June 6, 2017 at 6:58 pm
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      Is below point true ? Do you have any name/phone number who did this

      3. If you ask HR to formally send a written mail, then HR must forcefully and formally Layoff you in which case they must pay a compensation of 1 month of salary for every year of service accomplished in the organization in addition to the 2 month notice period.

    • Right2Fight on May 6, 2017 at 12:51 am
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    Good Initiative..we should fight for such injustice.

    • Rakesh Kumar Panda on May 6, 2017 at 2:04 am
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    Boss I hv only 10 yrs of exp in IT only… But I never agree on ur point as I have just 1 question 4 u… I agree u contribute a lot in Wipro growth that’s fair enough as an employee but plz let me know one thing what have u done 4 ur individual growth? Have u done any thing that u r proud off small enhancement or design is also ok. If u have done it then I m with u else take my suggestion prepare itself to face world as Wipro is not the only company to give u bread n butter..plz don take it other way think of this..

    • Senior Wipro Employee on May 6, 2017 at 2:08 am
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    Go for strike. Imagine a situation if all employees go for strike in our field for 1 day. The impact created will be huge and all these companies will stop these illegal activity only if this happen. In other sectors, people go for strike for salary hikes. Why we are not doing for saving our basic rights

    • Rakesh Kumar Panda on May 6, 2017 at 2:12 am
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    Do not take my comments other way. This is a request to all 90 guys keep it hand on ur heart n plz tell seriously what u could do best I u won’t be in IT? Plz don blame an institution or person if u can’t do anything for u..

    • Senior Wipro Employee on May 6, 2017 at 6:52 am
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    We can’t do anything against IT companies and they give bread and butter to us. I fully deny the first point but fully agree the second one. But query here is can company sack employees with just 2 months notice. Is this happening in other sectors? What is indian law is on this termination rules. As per industrial dispute rule, each employee who is permanent will be paid 15 days of severance package when company terminates them. This is applicable for IT companies also. Madras high court has given this judgement during 2015 against Hcl in case with Ramesha. In TCS, employee laid off is again inducted when she approached the court. In UK, Ukhil Nayar has won case against Wipro and company paid 1.1 million pounds as compensation.so we cannot able to do anything against IT companies is a wrong statement. When Nokia shut down, it paid for employees laid off. If this is happening in company which is closing, why company with person who awarded highly prestigeous padma awards running with huge profits, this will not happen. I touch my heart and say, i am confident to face the world better even after lay off. But what i am asking here is, why Wipro is not going for golden handshake concept if they want to cut the work force. Are you feeling ethical to send people working for 2 decades with 2 months notice quoting they have performance issue. Please try to put yourself in the employee shoe and you will understand what i am talking. The difference between clean and ugly exit is company giving offer to sharpen the axe before cutting the head. But unfortunately we are allowing to cut the heads by choosing clean exit option and thats the main reason for all these issues. In one way CTS is better than Wipro. CTS announce they are going to layoff 6000 people, paying 4-9 months severance pack and try to cut jobs. But Wipro announce press that they are planning to cut 600 people where as actually trying much more and no option of severance

    • Sundeep on May 6, 2017 at 7:51 am
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    Y do you want to fire n y can’t the packages be reduced instead firing?

    • Surya on May 6, 2017 at 10:06 am
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    I have given good idea ..For CEO vision by 2020. Reduce all people salary by half.. he will achieve his vision in one year. Once he prove himself again restore salaries with good hike. People don’t understand what is real meaning of automation. Automation for them is removing people

    • Vishnu prasanth on May 6, 2017 at 10:21 am
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    This is a need of the hour. There is no strong enforcement from government to retain People’s interests among private IT Sector. But why give your cause a communist color ? It dilutes the cause for justice.
    നിങ്ങളുടെ സമരത്തിന് ഒരു കമ്മ്യൂണിസ്റ്റ് നിറം നൽകേണ്ട കാര്യം ഉണ്ടായിരുന്നുവോ.. രാഷ്ട്രീയ വത്കരിക്കുംമ്പോൾ ഇതിന്റെ പ്രധാന ലക്ഷ്യം അവഗണിക്കപ്പെടുകയല്ലേ

    1. //But why give your cause a communist color ? It dilutes the cause for justice.//

      Vishnu Prasanth,

      We did not give communist color to the layoff issue. We have been a communist trade union from the beginning and we struggle along with IT employees as working class.

      If you want to discuss about communism vs capitalism, we can have that discussion on another post (such as Communist Manifesto for IT/ITES Employees – http://new-democrats.com/communist-manifesto-for-itites-employees/.

      You are welcome to post your views there. Please be specific and point out what is wrong in the post published. Thanks for your understanding.

      (PS : We appreciate your posting a Malayalam translation of a part of your comment. Will you help us to post our article in Malayalam too. Right now we have English and Tamil only)

    • Wipro Going Down on May 6, 2017 at 12:12 pm
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    Wipro wont survive after 3 years..They already dont have any project and no projects coming in next 4 months. MR CEO will suffer and so will Mr Premji

    • Ex wipro emp on May 6, 2017 at 12:16 pm
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    I already we t thu this, when my project was going to over , i took one week leave and during that time hr, डिलिव्री manager and bu head called me and told that u have to resign as part of Band inertia, it was not performance based as recently i got best SME award from senior vp. The ground was in one band more than 5 years. I requested for some time theyvwere notvreadybto give that time to wven HR was giving threat to apply some non compliance case on me to terminate if i will not reaign. I had other opportunities too from my practice and that also for onsite but they were not listening, and finally i have to resign.

    • SK on May 6, 2017 at 1:18 pm
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    Layoff is absolutely necessary. There are lots of worthless persons who are not doing anything. They might have done good work in their initial days, but not doing anything in last 5-7 years. Everyone in IT can identify such persons in their organization. However, it is though to identify such persons from top(who will give them exist notice), because these worthless guys are having good buttering skill and few of them are also having face value.
    So layoff should not be done based on rating as everyone knows rating is always (almost) biased. There should be a layered approach of rating + interview by third party experts + clients feedback etc to decide who should be fired.

      • kranthi on May 8, 2017 at 5:00 pm
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      Hi SK
      I will not agree regarding layoff should happen depending on rating.
      As i had seen so many people who are good performer & getting client appreciation mail also getting MCE rating because the employee is asking to release from the project as he is working for 2+ years in the same project.

      • NA on May 11, 2017 at 2:43 am
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      Hello SK,

      Layoff should happen to those people who are doing excel work with in a company and buttering their manager to survive.They are almost blind and selfish and could go to any extend to save their ass.They are not even worried to talk some nonsense to avoid any risk to their job.In wipro no one interested to investigate the appraisal process whether the ratings provided by the manager in each quarter is genuine or just it is a revenge taken by the manager whenever they had a past argument/fight or the resource did not butter the manger.

      I think now a days wipro is the worst company in India and the CEO and top management is very much spending their money for re branding wipro by changing the logo and all which is the biggest joke.They are making fool of the client by looting dollar and not providing the quality work by allocating more freshers rather then the experience persons.

      CEO and top management living luxurious life and wasting wipro money since they have to show something to the client and chairman that they are committed to do something in favor of the company and least bother about the streamline process and transparency.

      Why there are lots of HR’s still in the company who don’t have any work.They have practice for all technologies but those people are also good for nothing and the resource who are in bench has to search for project for themselves then why practice is required.

    • Neo on May 6, 2017 at 2:18 pm
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    Is the band inertia criteria applied for 5 years in same band or 7 years in same band ? This is because I have couple of friends in same band for 5 years but they haven’t been told to resign.

    • Sushil on May 6, 2017 at 3:24 pm
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    Why can’t we all come come together and start our own firm or business. Lets give a clean chit and give a tough fight to IT.

    • Rocky on May 6, 2017 at 3:25 pm
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    Does our Honorable Chairman aware with this menace going on?

    • MS on May 6, 2017 at 4:06 pm
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    To my surprise, last week I was informed that I am identified under B10 and asked to move. I never got below HVC rating, never received any warning, no customer escalation in my 5 Years of tenure in Wipro. I was ECC and above for 3 quarters and suddenly given MCE for the last quarter. This clearly indicates that supervisors were forced to lower the ratings to meet the reduction/margin numbers.

      • Neo on May 6, 2017 at 6:17 pm
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      What do you mean by B10

        • MS on May 9, 2017 at 5:39 pm
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        Bottom 10

    • Fire all vp & sr vp on May 6, 2017 at 4:44 pm
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    Team, lets show strength by assembling at sarjapur office with sick parents. Inform press and police.

    • Unkwon on May 6, 2017 at 5:25 pm
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    Wipro is now becoming unethical company. Band inertia will be used as tool by sr management for their personal interest. Why donot band inertia applies to VP, Sr VP?

    • TEJA on May 6, 2017 at 9:52 pm
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    I don’t think this is a wrong move. Why do employees stick with the same organisation for these many number of years when employers are looking for fresh/change in talent. Organisation can’t grow or withstand sudden changes in this competitive environment if we have people working from many years in the same company.
    And where does charity come in between. Please don’t pull his leg. He is a LEGEND. Seems like people who are saying all these need to think the other way. Hope you all adopt to change which is essential Now-a-days.

      • Rohit on May 7, 2017 at 4:19 am
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      @Teja – I think that is the most stupid argument I have heard so far. You are implying that people should regularly change their job, well if that is true then alll organizations will become training beds and cost of hiring will go up tremendously. Also, why are other senior folks still at the same position for so many years…. They should also be kicked out…… and that is what is the worst, HR should change and come with a fresh perspective, not work for people they favor.

    • Nomatyee on May 6, 2017 at 11:17 pm
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    CEO is clever safe his job till 2020 by showing red carrot to ahp

    • Soni on May 6, 2017 at 11:19 pm
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    Pls do ansan. don’t go for work any one. that time they will realise.

    • na on May 7, 2017 at 8:15 am
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    How many of you have already resigned. As i am getting pressure to resign by tomorrow. So need a confirmation if most of you are fighting for this menace then i will join the same. Can democrat create a group and we can chat over there.

    1. The group is already created, send your whatsApp no by email to combatlayoff@gmail.com will add you to the group.

    • Senior wipro employee on May 7, 2017 at 8:53 am
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    Again i reiterate my point. Let us take for argument sakes, these layoffs are required to cut top curve. But is this the way to do? If an employee work for 20 years, with same company, asked to move out in 2 months time and if this is allowed in all sectors, India will go for toss. If company want to layoff, let them take what Law of India says. Tje problem here is IT companies are not following Law using their muscle power and make employee quit and shows all illegal termination as part of attrition process. Here company is initiating some action and why they threaten employees to have clear exit. If employee resign on own, you give good remark for employee and if employee is not resigning, you will give bad remarks. Do you think this act is ethical. My main point is if you want to send employees as mass layoff, send them with respect. I have seen lime Wipro paying hefty golden handshakes for people going at VP levels. They are projecting these news because they want to show the world they are doing things correctly. If they want to send 4000 people, on an average if they pay 5 lakhs based on their service, cost incurred to company is 200 crores. This money will be helpful in worst scenario for people leaving until they find new jobs. Let this company give this money as per what law says and that should be the minimum requirement. This post i am definitely not supporting layoffs

    • Shamdutt on May 7, 2017 at 9:53 am
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    Please write to Narendra Modi and RS Prasad…the matter needs their attention..the fight by employees can get uglier day by day……erstwhile wipro emoyee…

    • SEND MAILS TO THE FOLLOWING Mail-ids EN-MASS on May 7, 2017 at 11:00 am
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    mcitoffice@gov.in – IT Ministry Mail-id

    ravis@sansad.nic.in – Ravishankar Prasad Mail-Id

    bandaru@sansad.nic.in – Bandaru Dathatreya Mail-ID

    sudharsan.reddy@gov.in Private secretary to Labor minister
    rahul.kashyap71@gov.in OSD Labor ministry.

    rti-pmo.applications@gov.in – PMO

    SUBJECT: : PREVENT IT FIRMS from Illegal LAYING OFF THE EMPLOYEES

    Mention the details of the Layoffs happening in CTS and Wipro. Alsi in other potential IT firms.

      • Kabi on June 1, 2017 at 6:23 pm
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      thanks for sharing the mail IDs but unless, until we all get together and bunk work by a week to protest in front of labour ministry , no one is going to take us seriously.

    • Vijay on May 7, 2017 at 12:12 pm
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    Indian IT companies are being unethical and unfair in the conduct of such indiscreet layoffs, as they are still very profitable. Companies should target finding new growth engines than targeting employees(and indirectly their famlies). Hiring american workers at cost of indian job losses is indeed condemnable.

    • Testman on May 7, 2017 at 12:16 pm
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    IT persons in general are selfish people. They don’t speak unless they get fire inside their own ass. I am doubtful whether this gentleman would continue his fight for others if he would get onsite or promotion from Wipro.

    I seriously am sceptic about the intentions of this gentleman. Where was he when previously employees got laid off from Wipro?

    All seniors plays politics with juniors. They didn’t think much of them. In 2 decades this person would have played dirty politics with several of other people. Let him get fired. He deserves it.

    I remember 1 dialogue of 3 idiots here “Kabil bano..takdir Jake marke tumare piche ayegi”

    1. Testman,

      As any person working for salary, IT persons followed their self interest. But now capitalism is showing its true colors and attacking thousands of IT employees in many companies, it is the duty of everyone to condemn the unethical, illegal and unprofessional conduct of corporates.

      Also remember, even after so many news reports in all leading dailies about job losses in CTS, Wipro etc, the central and state governments did not lift a finger.

      So, please place the blame at the right door. Any faults or shortcoming you perceive with IT employees you can always point out in a friendly manner.

    • Srujan on May 7, 2017 at 7:35 pm
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    If something went wrong, all employees should call pen down. Only the solution.

    • GeekGogo on May 8, 2017 at 12:50 am
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    I am also one of the onsite employee being affected by providing the MCE rating. However my performance to the customer is more than what they are expecting, Checked with the manager and he was saying that it was a push from the HR and other senior leaders. I don’t understand what is the push that he was mentioning but is the Wipro The company really thinking of the Integrity of personal life getting affected.

    I was 100% Billable from the day that I joined to Wipro to till today I am in the Customer location, If I am not performing then I would have got escalation from the customer and moved out of the project. If that is not happening that what makes them to think of giving a performing employee to non Performer.

    For an insight there is very less opportunities available in Wipro if the person is working in C1. Again will that not be a big Cost overhead for the company will the customer provide billable or high C1 employee finally who is affected is only the B3 who make the C1/C2/D1/D2 grow.

    B3 has to train B2,B1 and other TRB’s that will not be know to anyone

    Who has the complete knowledge of the application and when the application is having issues and no one in the account is able to resolve its only the Senior employee in the organisation has to resolve the issue.

    B3 to C1 an employee has to sever for 3 years after that if the employee is assigned an onsite opportunity then the process of his learning will be coming down
    So we are putting heavy burden to the employee each and every year to give performance, Now that its not only performance matters other things matters as well how we are with our managers matters alot.

    What a corporate culture are we living no JOB safety, No one in the government is ready to help us very bad shape, why are we living like a slave, and roaming as a nomads.

    I have already sent my whts up number to combatlayoff@gmail.com. What is the next steps that we have to do when we are pushed. I don’t have any other opportunity

    We all have signed a line with these companies that we will abide with what ever decision that they are taking when the organisation as a whole takes a decision like this

      • Xxx on May 8, 2017 at 1:32 pm
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      Are you working in a US based project?

        • GeekGogo on May 8, 2017 at 9:13 pm
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        Yes

      • Rajesh on May 10, 2017 at 10:40 pm
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      My sincere advice to you is to find a job elsewhere in that country itself. Service companies are doomed and ay not exist after 3 years. So be proactive, join a good product company and keep your skills updated. No point in working with dog run companies like wipro.

    • TCSer on May 8, 2017 at 4:24 am
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    All IT companies are doing similar malpractice. TCS has introduced forced curve fitting since last year and this year so far the bands for seniors are not declared. There are rumours of layoff in TCS as well. TCS management is keen to maintain 26-28% profit band by hook or crook. They have also introduced more than 30% in variable payout even for very junior employees. No one is clear on what will happen to seniors in TCS. After serving 16 years I am now regretting why I left core industry and joined IT where there is no job security while I have lots of liability, school going kids and ageing parents.

    • Ajay on May 8, 2017 at 10:04 am
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    I have 16 years of experience in Wipro and I myself given least ratings to the team to meet management targets. I was forced to change the ratings from excellent contribution to un satisfactory. People who are on bench also given least ratings to throw them out of the organization. Persons who just crossed 5 years in a band are thrown out of the company irrespective of their performance, I myself is evident for that.

    I am feeling very ashamed of serving this company for so many years and there is no value for the loyalty and sincerity, people are just treated as machines and playing with their lives.

    There is no respect given to individual and just taking one directional decisions and commanding the employees to resign voluntarily to have smooth exit otherwise threatening them as the case will be treated under termination process by preparing appropriate case sheet.

    • Joy on May 8, 2017 at 12:43 pm
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    I am not a wipro guy. But after working on IT industry for 10+ years I can tell you one thing and I believe you all with be agreed with me.
    The very base of IT companies are their Technical people. A VP or SVP or Director or whoever with a background of a big business management degree from IIMs or some foreign universities can not even create or deliver a small project with 100 lines of code.
    They are that useless. If you directly work with clients you can easily see the clients have more close relation with you that the waste fellow(the onsite manager) who is sitting and eating free bread.

    The trust of and the business from the client comes because of we technical people and not due to any senior management.
    Every IT firm shall remove most of the TOP level management “NON – TECHNICAL” people who are just looking into a graph and taking such kind of nonsense decisions. They have no clue what even means “console.log(‘you are a JOKE’)”.

    The progress of a IT firm, the relationship with client, the business all depends on Technical people and that is the truth.

    • Wiproite on May 8, 2017 at 2:22 pm
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    Affected employees of CTS along with union files case and immediately CTS is taking back seat. Atleast CTS is paying 4 months salary and asking employee to leave. Wipro dont have this option. We need to definitely take this forward. In many cases, when people is in power, they did mistakes with power. But later point of time, when it come to law, they cannot able to correct past data and lead to lot of issues to them. There are many examples like 2G scam, TN Ex CM case, Aircel/Maxis cases are typical examples and in all examples it lead to huge penalities either by cost or reputation or by sentencing. These IT companies build repetition so far and have full power and they are showing that muscle power. But in reality if affected people got united, issue to be created is the same as above examples

      • Pal on May 9, 2017 at 12:55 am
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      Affected Wiproite’s must come forward and join the union and represent it as Wipro’s wing of NDLF-IT union so that we can take this legally.

        • Srinivasan on May 9, 2017 at 7:17 am
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        Yes how to register in chennai

        1. Please send your name, phone no, location to combatlayoff@gmail.com
          Our volunteers will contact you for registering as union member.

    • Zany on May 8, 2017 at 4:01 pm
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    I have been working in Wipro for the past 14 years, currently Team Lead in a big account, during 3rd week of April my supervisor called me and asked to meet the HR, I was told that i am in the B3 band for 6 years and I have to quit immediately, I was told to resign on the same day. It was a big shock to me. Next week HR threatened me that If i dont resign they will go ahead with the next levels for closure and that will not be good. Yesterday my L2 appraisal was closed and I was given UC – unsatisfactory rating and now there is no chance that I will remain in the organization.

    In my account the band inertia target is 60, however Account delivery head and Client engagement manager is favoring and saving some 12 guys personally known to them, and they are sending some of these guys to onsite role (who is having H1B visa) to escape from this band inertia.

    One thing I have seen in Wipro is that you should have the blessings of Delivery head or some Senior Manager then you are always safe, no matter how worse the situation is.

    • Wiproite on May 8, 2017 at 6:17 pm
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    No body is safe. IT is very difficult if you grow up the ladder. The bell curve/pyramid is getting narrower when you go to the top. 10% target to be meet across all bands B3-D1. The number of B3s are more and thats the reason you are having this perception. But to a certain extent i agree, managers can save next level provided they are not in 10% category.

    • Nat on May 8, 2017 at 7:17 pm
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    Good discussion, I was part of wipro for 13 years and left in 2013 and became self employed. The reason I left was I could not find good opportunity, too much of pressure and new dictatorial rules and you are expected to work 24 hrs/day.

    As the industry mature and the clients too mature there is a squeeze on everything( margins are squeezed), so delivery managers are forced to have 80% TRBs/freshers, if any project is in green then remove the sr. resources out of that project so that you can make some extra profits these are something that are happening. So naturally experienced ones would have very less opportunities.

    May be the promoters are right in their selfish attitude of profits and more profits and there is investor pressure too as they run a business for profit. But this affects the lives of the employees. With the current situation I would say you go to office one day, your life expectancy reduces by a day due to the pressure of the job, you would never know you would be in the company tomorrow or not.

    Advice to those in IT would be, while its going to be long fight we need to be pragmatic and need to plan what to do if I am laid of tomorrow. Re skilling, Better investments to take care of these situations, reducing the expenses and being healthy should be prime objective to overcome this.

    Any victory would possibly be temporary only and better planning of our future, our personal health and most essential ones.

    1. //Any victory would possibly be temporary only//

      True, the unity of all employees is the only lasting solution.

    • Kass on May 8, 2017 at 8:25 pm
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    Settle and die in that company only shameless fellows first upgrade urself don’t take any company granted mysuggestion is first layoff this kind of people

    1. Noone is taking company as granted. Let the companies follow the law and behave in a professional manner.

    • Pal on May 9, 2017 at 12:56 am
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    Affected Wiproite’s must come forward and join the union and represent it as Wipro’s wing of NDLF-IT union so that we can take this legally.

    • Wiproite on May 9, 2017 at 8:15 am
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    We are also not saying that we want to settle in the same company. We worked for long duration in the company and if you want to send employee, send them with respect. Here employee did not get lower rating in his/her entire lifetime and in one appraisal, they are asked to go out. As per company policy, performance improvement plan is to be followed for lower ratings. But asking them to resign immediately is completely non ethical. This is not there in any other sectors. Band inertia is not based on performance but on experience in same band. In other countries, there are people who are in programmer cadder for their entire lifetime and they are comfortable there and they dont want to promote. Here all bands has lower and upper limits of salary and people in C1 salary in upper band is minimum 30% lesser than people in C2 band upper limit. IT labour law is saying if any employee leaves, company has to pay 15 days as severance pack for every year of service. Why company is not offering this atleast while doing this? IT employees surely can survey with their experience gathered but we asking our rights here. If companies in other sectors has some laws, why IT companies are not following this.

    • obsever on May 9, 2017 at 8:56 am
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    What Union? Its pvt sector, where you must have signed a contract with Wipro. If they want to sack you, they will give you compensation as per your contract.

    1. observer,

      Employees in pvt sector also have right to form union.
      Contract signed with Wipro is in addition to the law, not overriding the law.

    • Onlooker on May 9, 2017 at 9:06 am
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    IT bodyshoppers like TCS, Infosys, Wipro have been given 1000s of acres of government aka public land in prime locations. These companies are using surplus land to build golf courses. Why do they need 1000s of acres of land? They are not Apple or Microsoft that they need manufaturing facilities? All they need is 10×6 sqft cubicle per employee. Few offices are sufficient. Lets demand the land given to IT companies are returned. More like, Indian IT body shoppers are acting real estate mafia.

    • Raja on May 9, 2017 at 10:58 am
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    IT guys talk about forming union only when layoffs are looming, otherwise they don’t bother about unions.

    • Wiproite on May 9, 2017 at 11:36 am
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    I agree to Raja comments and atleast we will try to form this now. IT sector is service oriented company and here industry running only because of IT employees. The main problem is IT sector is completely divided and atleast we will start this initiative during Layoff time. We need to take the first step and let this layoff be the cause for that. I am sure, in coming years this will be possible

    • raj on May 9, 2017 at 12:17 pm
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    I am also WIPRO Employee since past 10 years and I fully support the above article. WIPRO is asking people working in Organization for 10-15 years to leave by giving 2 months notice. They are not offering good compensation to survive further for 8-10 months. It is high time all the IT employees get organized and fight this.
    Wipro is asking to resign the employee even they selected further for next onshore assignment on high billing rate . Selected by the customer due to their high technical efficiency.
    Guys pls fight back and take Wipro CEO and senior HRs to court and in front of media to make him answerable of this issue. Throwing people away without even taking a care to nature them for the next. It is busy to show profits and so the CEO looking after his own profit pocket.
    Really time has come now to fight against the monopoly of employer and take this issue to Indian labour court and Union IT ministry , New Delhi for better proper judgement.
    Our new government has given clear communication to all the India citizens to fight against the wrong.
    Believe our new Government will also help us in order to make this mission successful .

    • Anonymous on May 9, 2017 at 12:59 pm
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    Hi,
    I had been a victim in 2009. Now since the layoff is happening in higher level this much notice otherwise these would have gone with the management only. There were almost more than 10000 were laid off.

    • Nazeer Mohammed on May 9, 2017 at 1:39 pm
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    I have been working in Wipro for more than 12 years, and a senior deliver manager in a southern state. I had to align with this unethical practice of removing people in the name of band inertia and band mass, starting from last 7-8 months. A target is just given from the highermost circle, and I had to just adhere. None of the disagreements are heard. Unfortunately, the same sword has fallen on me also. I am also asked to move on with no solid reason given other than business requirements. Feeling extremely sorry for those unethical mindsets, and every other day big words on spirit of wipro, relentless integrity and all. Shame on you, Wipro !!! Be doomed

    • Mohammed on May 9, 2017 at 4:09 pm
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    The fact is Premji is very intelligent. still not taken any action Abid. He is spending time only on operation efficiency,. he is not in any mood to get additional business. He is still in honeymoon period. I am not sure why premji is quit. either he is too old. or he is incompetent.

    • Mohammed on May 9, 2017 at 4:12 pm
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    why can’t some one escalate these issue to Modi. Modiwanted to improve the job market. These IT companies are killing job. making people job. such company should pay heavy tax or compensation to employee.

    • Avi on May 9, 2017 at 7:10 pm
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    Very bad. Companies like Wipro are sitting on huge cash piles. When it comes to lay offs, they are paying 2 months salary. This is not acceptable. Guys need big protests, dozens or hundreds protestors not enuff. Spread the word, invite media people so the who world knows about it. Once their brand name is tarnished, they will one to you with good offers

    • Pak on May 10, 2017 at 6:48 pm
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    Agreed… I was asked to resign this March stating no project… Now hunting for a job…also no settlement too… Hmmm

      • Pak on May 10, 2017 at 6:50 pm
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      I was at C2 level… Joined Wipro last may 2016…just 1 month… N came out this March end….

    • Venkat on May 10, 2017 at 11:59 pm
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    Yes we need union as other industries… Simple!!

    • Arvind Alloli on May 11, 2017 at 9:21 am
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    I was thrown out of Wipro in October 2016. Still struggling to get a job. Very difficult to run my family.

    • kp on May 11, 2017 at 11:20 am
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    Yes,,, Friends Let us Publish this as much as possible..I will part of this Union.

    • NA on May 11, 2017 at 1:12 pm
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    Layoff should happen to those people who are doing excel work with in a company and buttering their manager to survive.They are almost blind and selfish and could go to any extend to save their ass.They are not even worried to talk some nonsense to avoid any risk to their job.In wipro no one interested to investigate the appraisal process whether the ratings provided by the manager in each quarter is genuine or just it is a revenge taken by the manager whenever they had a past argument/fight or the resource did not butter the manger.

    I think now a days wipro is the worst company in India and the CEO and top management is very much spending their money for re branding wipro by changing the logo and all which is the biggest joke.They are making fool of the client by looting dollar and not providing the quality work by allocating more freshers rather then the experience persons.

    CEO and top management living luxurious life and wasting wipro money since they have to show something to the client and chairman that they are committed to do something in favor of the company and least bother about the streamline process and transparency.

    Why there are lots of HR’s still in the company who don’t have any work.They have practice for all technologies but those people are also good for nothing and the resource who are in bench has to search for project for themselves then why practice is required.

    • Deepak rajbhar on May 11, 2017 at 7:13 pm
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    Yes..Friends Let us Publish this as much as possible..I will part of this Union.

    • Abhi on May 11, 2017 at 10:38 pm
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    File petition in Karnataka court pleading to take suo Moto cognizance of the layoffs.
    Request for stay order.

    Unless acted fast the damage will be done.

    • Rocky on May 14, 2017 at 1:11 am
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    This Man “Abidali Neemuchwala” is just trying to save his position till 2020.
    He spread his ambiguous ambition to make Wipro 15×20 (means Wipro to become 15 Billion US$ company by year 2020).

    Can anyone ask him about his vision and strategy to make Wipro 15×20?
    Will he thinking to Make Wipro 15×20 by removing the earning employee from the company by giving any bogus reason?
    How much revenue generated from the employees sitting on top?
    What is the strategy of This so called CEO to bag more business to increase revenue?
    What is his thought to bring confidence in customers?
    What is his strategy to bring Wipro from low bidder list to high bidder list and bag more business?
    How is going to ensure job safety Wipro Employees who are working day and night to make Wipro successful(Not CEO of Wipro)?
    Can he come back to India and work from India as more than 90% employees are based in India and this way he should be able to monitor and discuss with Sr. Wipro management(VP,SVP,GMs etc) )on daily basis and can make Wipro successful on daily basis?

    All I can say he is just be-fooling Wipro owner and trying to divert attention from real issues to save his job at least until 2020.
    Meanwhile, I am pretty sure, he would be trying outside wipro also for anther job as his contingency plan as, the moment Wipro owner will evaluate the real situation of the company, he will be kicked out immediately but unfortunately Wipro will be damanged in all way by the time:

    Wipro would have been lost his employee faith in Wipro
    Wipro Customer would have been lost confidence in Wipro

    I sincerely request owner of Wipro to awake withing time.

    Please understand Wipro exist because of the hard working Employees working day and night AND not because of this CEO.

      • Rajan s on June 6, 2017 at 8:46 am
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      I Completely agree with you, Abid has given progression to all nonperforming Vice Presidents to whom TK have refused to progress stating you are not ready.
      In this company one can grow only if he is good at networking internally , Performance hardly matters .

      • Rajan.s on June 6, 2017 at 12:29 pm
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      I completely agree with you. Companies should select right CEO and not just mediocre’s. He has progressed almost all nonperforming VP’s to Sr. VP’s to whom TK have refused to progress stating they are not ready for Sr. VP role. On top of this he has shifted many Sr. Leaders from India to US instead of He shifting back to India. Merit & hard work have stopped paying dividend here, only & only thing which works here is internal networking.

      It’s very unfortunate that most of the leaders here are focusing more on internal networking to save this skin and grow rather than networking with customers.

    • Velkannan Pillai on May 15, 2017 at 7:26 pm
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    I would like to join the union.

    1. Please contact combatlayoff@gmail.com with you name, company, location and phone no.

    • NA on May 19, 2017 at 10:59 pm
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    what is the plan actually.Till date Wipro HR is calling and forcing people to resign??

    • NA on May 19, 2017 at 11:53 pm
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    I think these fights are very much confined to chennai and bangalore it seems…I am not seeing any news in national tv or news paper…

    • R on May 25, 2017 at 8:27 pm
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    Rotten company to work for. Using employees when needed &then discarding them when their selfish ends are met Shameful . Can anyone from anywhere join NDLF?

    • Pardeep on May 26, 2017 at 7:20 am
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    I appreciate you for raising voice againt the company but it’s not first time. In your career, company have layoffs many times. Did you have raised voice for your colleague? I think, it’s your layoffs time then you have raised voice. It’s not your fault. Employees think if he/she not in the layoffs list then they says ooo I am safe it’s party time. This environment is created by IT employees but it’s not too late we have to come together and raise our voice againt IT companies.

      • Kabi on June 1, 2017 at 6:30 pm
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      well said pradeep. people should feel the pain themselves and then will feel the urgency to unite and fight back. sooner they realize, better for all. else day s are not far when PUC guys will replace all experienced folks because Indian IT is not rocket science like google or any other great product based org.

      time for all ( including ass licking managers ) to unite and fight back against these greedy, selfish IT management. SAD It’s CEOs ( from good IIT + MBA colleges) making the industry really miserably cheap body shopping industry.

    • Exwipro employee on May 26, 2017 at 7:51 am
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    Guys Wipro is the most unethical company, they don’t give hike and now removing people forcibly.I was part of Wipro for 7 years a d then decided to move on which was by far the best decision. Wipro have given me jitters back in 2008 also, I was topper and got campus recruitment and then suddenly we got mail that our offers are revoked. We all joined hands went to it minister, media and fought for our cause for 2 months and yes we were able to turn the decision in our favour. I strongly suggest to have a group formed with active participants and move on to road and media for live action. We all should fight for our cause.

    • Rajan s on June 5, 2017 at 10:40 pm
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    Do you know the fact that HR & Finance people are getting progression every 2nd or 3rd year at the cost of bread earner’s? Is Wipro a Technology company or HR & Finance company? Do we need such a jumbo HR & Finance team..Why can’t the company think of reducing the strength of HR & Finance by 50% across all bands and save money instead of asking bread earners to leave. Wipro spends millions on SAP /Oracle so why do we need so many of them who don’t even have 10% of the work. As far as I know, haven’t seen any HR or Finance guy getting fired rather people who have left at VP level were accommodated back by creating positions during this period of cost pressure ? Aren’t CFO / HR head are not sensible enough and avoid such wrong decisions.

    1. //Is Wipro a Technology company or HR & Finance company?//

      Technology people working to enrich the HR & Finance people (in and outside the company).

    • Kumar on June 19, 2017 at 11:01 am
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    In the latest development, Wipro is now blocking employee Form-16 to blackmail employee for forced resignation. They have blocked for all employees who were given negative rating. If you can’t see your form-16 in myWipro, you know that this part of their strategy to hold employee documents & force them for resignation.

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